or not employed can get back to work. >> one of things we saw, but ohio, indiana, other places, is that labor aside -- where were it's clearly the policy dispute, politically you've been the ones that have been the backbone in terms of resources in helping to even the plays field. when is look at the ten largest contributors to what was in the given political landscape, only two of the top ten -- three of the top ten, forgive me, were supported quote liberal or progressive side, all thee of them were union. seiu, afscme, and the nea. also were conservative groups looks the chamber of commerce, crossroads, and in many ways, aside from the policy difference, i would suspect, and i'm subject to conspiracy sometimes, that they want to try to break the unions, because it also stops the resources of the opposition. >> absolutely. they attack us in 20-some states that we have to defend ourselves, and you use the resources up to that you would use to educate. they try to get you to eat them up, but in this case it actually backfired. not only did it energized our members, it energized the general pub